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From the Old Testament:
19 God is not a man that He should lie, neither the son of man that He should repent.(Numbers 23:19)
While the Christ tells about himself that he is a man and the son of man.
40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. (John 8:40)
And you of course know that he was frequently calling himself the son of man.
Quotes of Jesus (Peace be upon him):
Joh 17:1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you,
Joh 17:2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him.
Joh 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
See, he says that the Father is the only true God, you know if he said "God" in the beginning this wouldn't have been a proof, because God means the whole Trinity, but in this script, he clearly states the Father only is the only God not the son or the holy spirit.
And see, this is the eternal life, it is not that he is God who came in flesh or that he is a person in the Trinity, or that he is the Savior who came to be crucified for the sin of Adam, it is simply that the Father is the only God, and that Jesus is a prophet sent by God.
Also in other scripts, Jesus refers to Father as his God, and this clearly means that he is not God, and can't be interpreted by the human nature because the human nature is supposed to be God also:
Joh 20:16 Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned and said to him in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which means Teacher).
Joh 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, "Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Mar 12:29 Jesus answered, "The most important is, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Christ even denies to be good and says that there is no good but God:
Mat 19:16 And behold, one came and said to Him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
See also another note; the way to enter the life is to keep the commandments, not as Paul told you that the law has no value and that only faith is enough.
These are some other scripts:
28"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. (John 14::28)
9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Messiah. (Matthew 23:9)
32 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Mark 13:32)
30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. (John 5:30)
42 "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." 43An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. (Luke 22:42-43)
Answering the scripts used to prove his divinity:
Not the first one to be called son of God:
• Israel is my firstborn son,( Exodus 4:22)
• "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6)
• 14I (God) will be his father, and he (Solomon) will be my son. (II Samuel 7:14)
• the son of Adam, the son of God.(Luke 3:37)
• 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:9)
• He even wasn't the only one to be called begotten of God, read this script: Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God. (1 John 3:9)
Calling him Lord:
• The word "Lord means Master or Sir, it is a famous title for the Peers, for example "Lord Chancellor, Lord justice Bingham. In Britain, you adress a judge or Peer as my Lord" ( Cambridge International Dictionary of English)
• This was what meant by Paul calling him lord: yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him. (1 Cor 8:5), so Paul separated between the two words God and Lord because he meant that Father is the only God to be worshipped other than false gods, and Jesus (Peace be upon him) the only master to be followed other than false prophets, this was also meant by saying "through whom are all things, and we through him. " because he is the prophet whom they get their religion through him.
• Even there are some English translations which sometimes use the word Master instead of Lord.
• For example in John 5:7, CEV and LITV uses the word lord instead of Sir or Master, in John 13:36 YLT and WNT use the words Master or Sir instead of Lord.
“Before Abraham was born, I am!”:
• even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. (Ephesians 1:4)
• So what Jesus (Peace be upon him) meant here is that Abraham (Peace be upon him) rejoiced when he knew that Jesus (Peace be upon him) will be from his descendants, and this word " Before Abraham was born, I am!, means that he was as Paul said in Ephesians, in God's knowledge since God knows everyone's life from the beginning.
• The word "I AM" doesn't claim divinty, anyone can say I am. The word "ego eimi" if it really meant Jehovah, it wouldn't have been translated but it have been written Jehovah.
Some said, "It is he." Others said, "No, but he is like him." He kept saying, "I am the man." (John 9:9)
So the beggar also may become a divine!!
Not the first one to raise the dead:
• Ezekiel raised thousands of dead people (Ezekiel 37:1-14), is Ezekiel God?
• Elijah raised one (I Kings 17:17-24), is Elijah God?
Remember: 30By myself I can do nothing (Matthew 5:30), and this was proved when he raised Lazarus in John 11 he said before 41So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”, then he made the miracle.
"I and the Father are one":
Read the context:
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one." 31 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" 33"We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." 34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods" ' d ? 35If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came and Scripture cannot be broken 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? (John 10)
So when he said "I and the Father are one", the Jews understood what you understood that he is God, so he revealed that point when saying: "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods", so how do they reject calling him God's son and they were called by the same title : "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6).
Saying I and the Father are one is in the aim not in the body, otherwise all the companions of Jesus (Peace be upon him) are one.
22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one ( John 17:22)
Dr Constable, a Christian commentator says on this verse:
Jesus did not mean that He and the Father were the same person of the
Godhead. If He had meant that, He would have used the masculine form
of the word translated "one" (Gr. heis). Instead He used the neuter form of
the word (Gr. hen). He meant that He and the Father were one in their action. This explanation also harmonized with the context since Jesus had
said that He would keep His sheep safe (v. 28) and His Father would keep
them safe (v. 29). (Dr. Constable's Notes on John, p.169-170)
Not the first one to forgive sins:
24 No one living in Zion will say, "I am ill"; and the sins of those who dwell there will be forgiven. (Isaiah 33:24)
Notice also that Jesus (Peace be upon him) said "your sins are forgiven" NOT " I forgive your sins", he referred forgiving sins to unknown which is inevitably God, he didn't refer it to himself.
"My kingdom is not of this world":
It means that he wants Paradise not this world
16They (companions) are not of the world, even as I (Jesus) am not of it. (John 17:16)
19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world , but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.(John 15:19)
Thomas calling him "My Lord and my God":
• Calling him "my Lord" doesn't mean that he is God as mentioned before.
• Calling him "my God" can't mean that he is God since it clearly contradicts with what Jesus (Peace be upon him) said to the Father:
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17:3)
And with what Paul said:
yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; (1 Cor 8:5)
So either the word God mentioned in that script like the one meant for Moses (Peace be upon him):
And the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. ( Exodus 7:1) ESV
Or that Thomas said this here as an exclamation as when one says “O my God” ,or that this script was interpolated so that it can be a proof for the divinity of Jesus (Peace be upon him) since it clearly contradicts with other Bible scripts.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.":
• There is a mistranslation to this verse, the first "God" in this verse is "hotheos" in Greek origin which means God (with capital G), while the second is "tontheos" which is supposed to be translated into god (with small g), and of course there is a big difference between both words , since God means Jehovah of the Old Testament, while the word god, means a god for pagans which is not meant in this verse, or god which means master as told about Moses (Peace be upon him) in Exodus 7:1" And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made you a god to Pharaoh. And Aaron your brother shall be your prophet." Or Psalms 82:6 ""I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6)"
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father:
He then said to them:
Joh 14:19Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
So this script proves that he can't be God because the Bible clearly tells that no one can see God really:
1Jo 4:12 No one has ever seen God
Exo 33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live."
So the script here tells that what Jesus (Peace be upon him) says and does is what God really wants so seeing Jesus as a real prophet is like seeing God.
19 God is not a man that He should lie, neither the son of man that He should repent.(Numbers 23:19)
While the Christ tells about himself that he is a man and the son of man.
40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. (John 8:40)
And you of course know that he was frequently calling himself the son of man.
Quotes of Jesus (Peace be upon him):
Joh 17:1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you,
Joh 17:2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him.
Joh 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
See, he says that the Father is the only true God, you know if he said "God" in the beginning this wouldn't have been a proof, because God means the whole Trinity, but in this script, he clearly states the Father only is the only God not the son or the holy spirit.
And see, this is the eternal life, it is not that he is God who came in flesh or that he is a person in the Trinity, or that he is the Savior who came to be crucified for the sin of Adam, it is simply that the Father is the only God, and that Jesus is a prophet sent by God.
Also in other scripts, Jesus refers to Father as his God, and this clearly means that he is not God, and can't be interpreted by the human nature because the human nature is supposed to be God also:
Joh 20:16 Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned and said to him in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which means Teacher).
Joh 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, "Which commandment is the most important of all?"
Mar 12:29 Jesus answered, "The most important is, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Christ even denies to be good and says that there is no good but God:
Mat 19:16 And behold, one came and said to Him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
See also another note; the way to enter the life is to keep the commandments, not as Paul told you that the law has no value and that only faith is enough.
These are some other scripts:
28"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. (John 14::28)
9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Messiah. (Matthew 23:9)
32 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Mark 13:32)
30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. (John 5:30)
42 "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." 43An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. (Luke 22:42-43)
Answering the scripts used to prove his divinity:
Not the first one to be called son of God:
• Israel is my firstborn son,( Exodus 4:22)
• "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6)
• 14I (God) will be his father, and he (Solomon) will be my son. (II Samuel 7:14)
• the son of Adam, the son of God.(Luke 3:37)
• 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:9)
• He even wasn't the only one to be called begotten of God, read this script: Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God. (1 John 3:9)
Calling him Lord:
• The word "Lord means Master or Sir, it is a famous title for the Peers, for example "Lord Chancellor, Lord justice Bingham. In Britain, you adress a judge or Peer as my Lord" ( Cambridge International Dictionary of English)
• This was what meant by Paul calling him lord: yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him. (1 Cor 8:5), so Paul separated between the two words God and Lord because he meant that Father is the only God to be worshipped other than false gods, and Jesus (Peace be upon him) the only master to be followed other than false prophets, this was also meant by saying "through whom are all things, and we through him. " because he is the prophet whom they get their religion through him.
• Even there are some English translations which sometimes use the word Master instead of Lord.
• For example in John 5:7, CEV and LITV uses the word lord instead of Sir or Master, in John 13:36 YLT and WNT use the words Master or Sir instead of Lord.
“Before Abraham was born, I am!”:
• even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. (Ephesians 1:4)
• So what Jesus (Peace be upon him) meant here is that Abraham (Peace be upon him) rejoiced when he knew that Jesus (Peace be upon him) will be from his descendants, and this word " Before Abraham was born, I am!, means that he was as Paul said in Ephesians, in God's knowledge since God knows everyone's life from the beginning.
• The word "I AM" doesn't claim divinty, anyone can say I am. The word "ego eimi" if it really meant Jehovah, it wouldn't have been translated but it have been written Jehovah.
Some said, "It is he." Others said, "No, but he is like him." He kept saying, "I am the man." (John 9:9)
So the beggar also may become a divine!!
Not the first one to raise the dead:
• Ezekiel raised thousands of dead people (Ezekiel 37:1-14), is Ezekiel God?
• Elijah raised one (I Kings 17:17-24), is Elijah God?
Remember: 30By myself I can do nothing (Matthew 5:30), and this was proved when he raised Lazarus in John 11 he said before 41So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”, then he made the miracle.
"I and the Father are one":
Read the context:
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one." 31 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" 33"We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." 34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods" ' d ? 35If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came and Scripture cannot be broken 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? (John 10)
So when he said "I and the Father are one", the Jews understood what you understood that he is God, so he revealed that point when saying: "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods", so how do they reject calling him God's son and they were called by the same title : "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6).
Saying I and the Father are one is in the aim not in the body, otherwise all the companions of Jesus (Peace be upon him) are one.
22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one ( John 17:22)
Dr Constable, a Christian commentator says on this verse:
Jesus did not mean that He and the Father were the same person of the
Godhead. If He had meant that, He would have used the masculine form
of the word translated "one" (Gr. heis). Instead He used the neuter form of
the word (Gr. hen). He meant that He and the Father were one in their action. This explanation also harmonized with the context since Jesus had
said that He would keep His sheep safe (v. 28) and His Father would keep
them safe (v. 29). (Dr. Constable's Notes on John, p.169-170)
Not the first one to forgive sins:
24 No one living in Zion will say, "I am ill"; and the sins of those who dwell there will be forgiven. (Isaiah 33:24)
Notice also that Jesus (Peace be upon him) said "your sins are forgiven" NOT " I forgive your sins", he referred forgiving sins to unknown which is inevitably God, he didn't refer it to himself.
"My kingdom is not of this world":
It means that he wants Paradise not this world
16They (companions) are not of the world, even as I (Jesus) am not of it. (John 17:16)
19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world , but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.(John 15:19)
Thomas calling him "My Lord and my God":
• Calling him "my Lord" doesn't mean that he is God as mentioned before.
• Calling him "my God" can't mean that he is God since it clearly contradicts with what Jesus (Peace be upon him) said to the Father:
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17:3)
And with what Paul said:
yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; (1 Cor 8:5)
So either the word God mentioned in that script like the one meant for Moses (Peace be upon him):
And the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. ( Exodus 7:1) ESV
Or that Thomas said this here as an exclamation as when one says “O my God” ,or that this script was interpolated so that it can be a proof for the divinity of Jesus (Peace be upon him) since it clearly contradicts with other Bible scripts.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.":
• There is a mistranslation to this verse, the first "God" in this verse is "hotheos" in Greek origin which means God (with capital G), while the second is "tontheos" which is supposed to be translated into god (with small g), and of course there is a big difference between both words , since God means Jehovah of the Old Testament, while the word god, means a god for pagans which is not meant in this verse, or god which means master as told about Moses (Peace be upon him) in Exodus 7:1" And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made you a god to Pharaoh. And Aaron your brother shall be your prophet." Or Psalms 82:6 ""I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalms 82:6)"
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father:
He then said to them:
Joh 14:19Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
So this script proves that he can't be God because the Bible clearly tells that no one can see God really:
1Jo 4:12 No one has ever seen God
Exo 33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live."
So the script here tells that what Jesus (Peace be upon him) says and does is what God really wants so seeing Jesus as a real prophet is like seeing God.
