aussie_economist: islam is the devil

me: why do u say that?

me: waht do u know about islam to take this judgement?

me: r u afraid from takling with me?

aussie_economist: i used to be islam

aussie_economist: im not now

aussie_economist: yup

aussie_economist: jesus said

aussie_economist: if anyone claims to be god

aussie_economist: other than him

aussie_economist: its false

aussie_economist: muhamad is a false prohet

aussie_economist: the bible says so

aussie_economist: and so does god

me: oh sweety ,,,,,,, why do not give ur self the chance to study other religions

aussie_economist: i have

aussie_economist: i just told you

aussie_economist: i was brought up in turkey

aussie_economist: i was muslim

me: and then u can use ur mind to judge

aussie_economist: now im not

aussie_economist: cuz im smarter

aussie_economist: the bible says

aussie_economist: anyone other than christ

aussie_economist: are flase

aussie_economist: false

me: so what do u found in christianity better than in islam?

me: and what is the evidence?

aussie_economist: christianity is the truth

aussie_economist: the evidence is

aussie_economist: christ said

aussie_economist: he is god

aussie_economist: anyone that says they are god other than him

aussie_economist: is false

me: and who told u that turky is an islamic country

me: ok dear, i undertand this point

me: what is the evidence u have that ensure that christianity is the right religion?

me: did u just depend on waht u read ?

me: u must be assured

me: because it the matter of ur fate after death

me: and taking the risk in this field is very very dangerous

aussie_economist: no its not

aussie_economist: islam is false

aussie_economist: everyone knows that

aussie_economist: i was born in turkey

aussie_economist: the bible says ONLY christians go to heave

aussie_economist: heaven

aussie_economist: you go to hell

me: yes i beleive u ,,,, but turky is not muslim country now

aussie_economist: im so sorry

aussie_economist: i dont care

me: it was

aussie_economist: i was brought up as islam

aussie_economist: and you go to hell

aussie_economist: so im sorry

aussie_economist: all islam go to hell

me: do u know that there are alot of things that the prophet muhammed told us from1400 years ago will happen and scientests found that right

aussie_economist: like what

aussie_economist: name one

me: and many many many people enterd islam because of this

aussie_economist: well tell me then

me: www,55a.net

aussie_economist: nope

aussie_economist: tell me on here

me: this a site concerned about miracles of islam

aussie_economist: tell me

me: just open it dear

aussie_economist: prove it

aussie_economist: nope

aussie_economist: tell me on here

aussie_economist: what did he say

aussie_economist: that scientists agreed that came true

me: dear the problem with me now is in the language ,,,, so why do not u have a look

aussie_economist: you cant tell me

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: you lie

me: so ,, i will open it my self

aussie_economist: you dont believe in jesus

aussie_economist: and im sorry

aussie_economist: you go to hell

me: dear

me: what ever,, i say titles , the researches r too long ,, so u must open it ur self

aussie_economist: muslims want to kill the world

aussie_economist: and make everyone islam

aussie_economist: islam is about killing everyone

aussie_economist: i read your website

aussie_economist: they are too broad

aussie_economist: they can be applyed to anything

aussie_economist: the bible forecasted the future too

aussie_economist: and it all came true

aussie_economist: the bible says 'a nation called america will become a super power and invade islam countries'

aussie_economist: and that came true

aussie_economist: if allah was real, why did he allow christians to invade your countries?

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: i won

me: The forbiddance Of The Swine meat as Ordained in the Holy Quran

me: this is one title

me: http://www.55a.net/firas/english/?pa...&select_page=4

aussie_economist: i asked you something

me: and this is the link

aussie_economist: if allah is real , why did he allow christians to invade muslim countries??

me: the research is too long to tell here

aussie_economist: if allah is real , why did he allow christians to invade muslim countries??

me: just have alook

aussie_economist: if allah is real , why did he allow christians to invade muslim countries??

aussie_economist: answer my question

me: and who told u this is right?

aussie_economist: chrsitian countries invaded iraq

aussie_economist: and afgan

aussie_economist: why does allah allow this?

me: the piple with people now ibs not the real one

aussie_economist: answer me

me: it has been distorted by people

aussie_economist: answer my question

aussie_economist: if allah is real , why did he allow christians to invade muslim countries??

me: and i told u this is a lie

me: allah never said that

aussie_economist: no

aussie_economist: what im saying is

aussie_economist: why does allah allow CHRISTIAN countries

aussie_economist: to invade muslim counties?

aussie_economist: answer this

me: honny i know what u said

me: and i answerd u

aussie_economist: jesus is real because he allowed us to invade

aussie_economist: no you havent

me: no i have

aussie_economist: if allah is real , why did he allow christians to invade muslim countries??

aussie_economist: tell me agian then

me: i told u what u said and u know is not true

aussie_economist: whats not true?

me: the piple is distorted by people

aussie_economist: iraq and afgan are in control of christians

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: muslims do as christians say

aussie_economist:

me: and u proud of this?

aussie_economist: yes

aussie_economist: very proud

aussie_economist: it proves jesus is reaL

aussie_economist: why would allah allow us to invade you

aussie_economist: it proves he is not real

me: r u proud of being belongs to a religion of killing and destroying

me: give me the evidence

aussie_economist: if allah was real

aussie_economist: he would not allow us to invade iraq and afgan

me: and give me the evidence that jesus is a God not a messenger

aussie_economist: the bible

aussie_economist: jesus had christ, a form of god

aussie_economist: educate yourself

aussie_economist: you dont see chsritians blowing them selfs up with bombs

aussie_economist: only muslims

me: give me an evidence that thebible u have is right?

me: and by the way tell me how many versions of the bible ?

aussie_economist: the bible

aussie_economist: thats all you need

aussie_economist: i will pray for you

aussie_economist: you are going to hell

me: ok



aussie_economist: the bible is the truth

aussie_economist: everything else is false

me: why do not u look at the link

aussie_economist: i did look

aussie_economist: i read it

aussie_economist: there was no proof

aussie_economist: the only proof you need is the bible

aussie_economist: may jesus pray for you

me: the link is talking breifly about eating the meat oh big

me: in christianity it is ok to eat it

me: but in islam it is forbidden

me: the prophet muhammed told us that from more than 1400 years ago

aussie_economist: so what

aussie_economist: the bible was 2008 years ago

aussie_economist: the bible is much older

aussie_economist: and its right

aussie_economist: jesus died for you

aussie_economist: did muhammed die for you?

me: and in this age scientests made researches about that point and found that eating the meat of big is very harmeful

aussie_economist: wrong

aussie_economist: im a scientist

aussie_economist: you have to eat fo ryour blood type

aussie_economist: if u dont

aussie_economist: you get unhealthy

me: read the post and u will know

me: why u r afraid?

me: go on

aussie_economist: ill educate you

aussie_economist: very long ago

aussie_economist: many people lived in different areas

me: and if u r very sure from ur religion as u say , ok u r free

aussie_economist: some ate meat, others ate dairy products like milk and cheese

me: just read

aussie_economist: because they ate different things

aussie_economist: their DNA needs you to eat different things

aussie_economist: ok let me ask you this

aussie_economist: its serious

aussie_economist: 7 months ago

aussie_economist: they made a DNA link between man and apes

aussie_economist: they proved 100% that man came from apes

aussie_economist: through DNA

aussie_economist: what do u think about that

me: hony i need an evidence

me: i give u an evidenc

me: and u who refuses to read

me: u too give me a proof please?

aussie_economist: omg

aussie_economist: you dont know?

aussie_economist: you need to educate yourself

aussie_economist: do you have fast net?

me: yes

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: ok

me: ok ,, let us make a deal

aussie_economist: ill show you

aussie_economist: ready?

me: ok

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5M

aussie_economist: listen to this

aussie_economist: proves man came from apes

me: u educate ur self ,,,, and me educate my self

aussie_economist: ok

aussie_economist: watch this

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5M

aussie_economist: then tell me what you think

aussie_economist: proof

me: if what u say is right ,, so why u r christian

aussie_economist: i believe in evolution

aussie_economist: im catholic

aussie_economist: the catholic church believes in evolution

me: because who believe in it do not believe that there is no GOD to this universe

aussie_economist: they have proved

aussie_economist: man came from apes

aussie_economist: the CATHOLIC church believes in evolution

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5M

aussie_economist: proof

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: proof man came from apes

me: and also this another point ,,,,,,,,, islam is one from 1400 years and never changed and will never change

aussie_economist: so what

aussie_economist: the bible is 2000 years old

aussie_economist: and has never changed

me: this is nonsense

aussie_economist: its not nonsense

aussie_economist: watch it!

me: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



aussie_economist: its from scientistis

aussie_economist: yup

aussie_economist: are you scared?

aussie_economist: lol

aussie_economist: the bible is much much older

me: it has changed many many many times

aussie_economist: nope

aussie_economist: never once

aussie_economist: you are wrong

me: the matter is not what is elder than the other

aussie_economist: you are right

aussie_economist: it doesnt matter

me: ok

aussie_economist: but what this, it proves man came from apes

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5M

aussie_economist: what do you think about that! thats the proof you wanted

me: so why do not u look at the kinks

me: links

aussie_economist: watch the site first

aussie_economist: i have looked at your site

aussie_economist: now you look at mine

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5Mme: what did u read in my site?

aussie_economist: why allah is good

aussie_economist: the proof of allah

aussie_economist: so now

aussie_economist: you watch this

aussie_economist: proof that man came from apes

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1ze...sie_economist: watch that, then tell me what yo usaw

aussie_economist: you saw*

me: and is necessary that what every one say something he is right?

aussie_economist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5Mme: i opened it dear

aussie_economist: watch

aussie_economist: what did the video say

aussie_economist: tell me

me: i am watching ,,,,,,,,,,, but the problem is in the language ,,

me: i saw a man standing and showing pictures of apes

aussie_economist: do u know what DNA is?

me: a little bit

aussie_economist: its our code

aussie_economist: when you have a baby

aussie_economist: the DNA tells the baby

aussie_economist: how to grow

aussie_economist: and live

aussie_economist: well

me: ok

aussie_economist: they lined DNA between man and apes

aussie_economist: 100%

me: ok may be there is similarity but not the same

aussie_economist: yes they are

aussie_economist: they are 100% the same

aussie_economist: EXACTLY the same

aussie_economist: it proves man cames from apes

me: if what u say is right this means we r apes

aussie_economist: that proves evolution

me: so why we look different?

aussie_economist: lets see

aussie_economist: are black people and white people human?

aussie_economist: yes or no

me: y

aussie_economist: answer me

aussie_economist: are black people human?

me: yes

aussie_economist: are white people human as well?

aussie_economist: ok good


aussie_economist: BUT

aussie_economist: white people and black people look so different...

aussie_economist: humans and apes are the ONLY animals with thumbs

aussie_economist:

me: but the difference here is just in coclor not the full shape and form

aussie_economist: apes look the same as us

aussie_economist: the eyes, the face

aussie_economist: the body

aussie_economist: the hands

aussie_economist: the thumbs

aussie_economist: the ears, the mouth, the brain

me: ok

aussie_economist:

me: now ,,,, in the quran ,, allah told us that people were created from the land,,,,,, and scientests made their researches and foud that the initialbegining
of a human was from the sand

aussie_economist: so what?

aussie_economist: the bible said man was made from mud

aussie_economist: the bible said all those things before the qruan

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: hony ,,, the piple is from allah ,,,,, the same as quran from allah ,,,, but the matter is before quran came with hunderds of years people who were
beleiving in jesus message changed it

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: but both of them r from one source that is allah

aussie_economist: nope

aussie_economist: the bible came frist

me: u r so strange

aussie_economist: christ came first

aussie_economist: and you know it

me: yes i know

aussie_economist: christ SAD, any god that says he is god after this day

aussie_economist: he is FALSE

aussie_economist:
me: hony ,,,, who changed it must say that

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: now return to this point

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: at first u by ur self told me that jesus told christians to enter islamic countries and kill muslims and u r proud of that ,,,,, how now u say that quran
want muslims to kill non muslims,,,,, despite it did not

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: u can read it ur self and u will know

aussie_economist: the bible never says for christians go to arab lands and kill arabs

aussie_economist: your quaran says so

aussie_economist: you are going to hell

aussie_economist: the bible says so

me: and who tell u islam said that?



me: give me a proof from the quran that tells to kill people

me: from the quran it self not from what u know

BUZZ!!!

aussie_economist: the quaran wants muslims to murder non muslimes

me: give me a proof from the quran

me: a prooooooooooooooooooooooof

me: honey ,,, why do not u really study islam and let ur self know about it
me: hony we as muslims belief in jesus but as a messenger not GOD

me: how can a human be GOD

me: and how can GOD die

me: Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Qur'an
confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Qur'an is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Qur'an describes the birth of Jesus as follows;

me: (Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is

me: Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God which had brought Adam into being without a father. God has said

me: The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being } (Qur'an, 3:59)

me: During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:


me: I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” } (Qur'an, 3:49)

me: Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:


me: ...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... } (Qur'an, 4:157)

aussie_economist: you are going to hell

aussie_economist: jews are the choosen people

me: Neither Muhammad (Peace be upon him) nor Jesus (Peace be upon him) came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.

aussie_economist: jews are the choosen people

me: as u like

aussie_economist: jews are the choosen people

me: now i have to go ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and really from my heart i wish u visit the links i gave u ,,,, read by ur heart ,,,,, not important u tell me u did ,,,,, the important is u do ,,,,,, veleive me i wish we all go to heaven ,,,,,, honey give ur self a chance ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

aussie_economist: jews are the choosen people

me: http://www.islamreligion.com/

aussie_economist: jews are the choosen people

aussie_economist: the devil made islamd

aussie_economist:

aussie_economist: the bible say so

me: bye ( peace upon u )

السلام عليكم,

نصيحه لك يا اختنا ان تتعلمي جيدا و تطلعي على الدروس و الكتب الاسلاميه و تتثبتي جيدا قبل الدخول فى اي حوار مع النصارى حتى لا تسيئي للاسلام عن جهل او نقص و رحم الله امرء عرف قدر نفسه و لا تدفعك غيرتك على دينك فى التهور و الدخول فى مواجهه غير معروف عواقبها و الافضل ترك الحوار من اوله افضل مع الاعتذار للمحاور بكل ادب لعدم اتقان فن الحوار او لعدم الاعداد الجيد للحوار.

الحكمه تقتضي التاني و عدم الدخول الا مواقع او منتديات تلقي شبهات عن الاسلام حتى لا تعلق شبهه فى قلبك تؤثر عليك تاثير كبير فى ما بعد او تهز دينك فى داخلك او تشكك فى ما انت عليه من عقيده, فانت لا تعلمين فانهم شياطين و يستدرجون المسلمين الضعفاء لتنصيرهم فحذار ثم حذار من الاندفاع و التحور و الافضل لك العمل بين صفوف النساء المسلمات و دعوتهم للحجاب و النقاب و فضائل الاعمال فانت هكذا ايضا تنفعين الاسلام و لكن فى داخل حظيرة الاسلام و لا خوف عليك حينها و هذا افضل فى هذه المرحله.

لي صديق كان يفعل مثلك على الشات و الميل و وقع فى براثم منصره نصرانيه امريكيه بالصدفه و لكنه كان صخره كبيره و كان عالم ملم بكثير من تفاصيل دين القوم و على قدره عاليه على المناظره فى النصرانيه و يعلم العبريه ايضا و عنده القدره على التعبير باللغه الانجليزيه و لذلك قام بمواجهه المنصره التى انسحبت بسرعه عندما علمت انه صخره قويه و يعلم من دينها ما تخفيه هي و يرد عليها و يقارعها الحجة بالحجه و بنصوص كتبهم المحرفه ايضا.

لا تجعلي الاسلام يؤتى من قبلك و لا تدخلي فى حوار يخص الاسلام و انت غير مستعده له ابدا و خير لك الانسحاب بهدوء و ادب افضل من الاستمرار حتى لا تخسري دينك او تشوهي صورة الاسلام عن غير قصد و هذه حكمة لابد منها.

وفقك الله و ايدك و فتح عليك من علمه و فقهك فى دينه الاسلام و حماك و نساء المسلمين من كل فتنه.

و السلام عليكم.

السلام عليكم,

مشكور يا اختنا على مجهودك و روحك الطيبه و جزاك الله كل خير و انت ما قصرت و يكفي نيتك الطيبه الصالحه.

نحن جميعا نتعلم و نخطا و نتوب لله وحده, و نصحح الاخطاء و ليس منا من لا يخطا او معصوم سوى نبي الله محمد (صل الله عليه وسلم).

المهم انك تدرسي جيدا و تحاولي العمل فى البيئة التى تصلح لك فالمنتديات الاسلاميه العربيه كثيره و يمكن لك ان تعملي فى الدعوة بين الاخوات المسلمات و ان ترشدي غير المحجبات للحجاب و النقاب و تعلمي المسلمات غير الملتزمات بدينهم.

ليس عيب الانسحاب على الفور بادب من اي حوار لا يليق او غير مستعده له و هذا قمة القوة و الحكمه و الذكاء و ليس ضعف على الاطلاق بل و ان محاورك لو انسان عاقل سيحترمك جدا على ردك المؤدب و انسحابك بلباقه بدون مشكله.

وفقك الله لما يحبه و يرضاه و نصر بك الاسلام و اعز بك الاسلام و جعلك الله ام لاحد ابطال المسلمين فى المستقبل باذن الله تعالى.

و السلام عليكم.

السلام عليكم,

يا سيدتي الفاضله لا تحزني و لا تحملي نفسك ما حدث مع النصرانيه فهي تعلم كما يعلم النصارى حقيقة الامر و حقيقة الاسلام و لكنهم يكابرون و لا يريدون الحق و كثير منهم يقرا عن الاسلام و يعلم الكثير جدا عن الاسلام فلا حجة لهم و كونك اخفقتي فى حوار مع نصراني فهذا ليس نهاية المطاف لك او له و الحق واضح جدا جدا لمن يريد الحق فعلا و ليس الجدال بالباطل و السب و الشتيمه.

و اي عاقل منصف لن يصدق دعاوي الغرب عن الاسلام و المسلمين بدليل ان افواج المسلمين فى الغرب تزيد بشكل سريع جدا و الاسلام ينتشر بقوة و سرعه فى كل مكان فى العالم و بدون اي مجهود يذكر من قبل الدول العربيه او الاسلاميه و هذا يزيد جنونهم و حقدهم على الاسلام و طبعا يغطي هذا الحقد على عقولهم فلا يدعهم يرون الحقيقه او يفكروا كيف ينتشر الاسلام بهذا الشكل لو انه دين عنف و انتشر بالسيف كما يدعون فهم يكذبون على انفسهم و يصدقون كذبهم.

ديانة النصرانيه الشركيه ضعيفه جدا امام اي منطق منظم فمعبود النصارى ولد طفل صغير فى حظيرة بقر و ختنته امه كما يختتن الاطفال و كان ياكل و يشرب مثل باقي الناس و لم يقل الاه النصارى طوال حياته انه الاه او انه الله او طلب من الناس ان يعبدوه او يسجدوا له و لو مره واحده نهائيا لانه حسب عقولهم و تفسيره لهذا الامر يخاف من الناس ان يرجموه او يضربوه و حتى لم يقول لاصحابه و محبيه و حوارييه هذا الامر ايضا و لا اعرف كيف يخاف الله من مخلوقاته و بعد كل هذا ضرب معبود النصارى و قتل على الصليب و هذا هو كل ما فى الامر ملخص عقيدة القوم الفاسده و معظم طوائف النصارى تتفق على هذا الامر حيث تعبد السيد المسيح على انه الله و ابن الله.


هوني عليك و ادرسي الدين الاسلام قبل اي شيء و تعمقي فى عقيدة الاسلام و سيرة الرسول قبل اي شيء اخر فلابد من معرفة ديننا الحق اولا لان الله سيحاسبنا على التقصير فى ديننا و لن يحاسبنا على التقصير فى دين الضالين.

و فقك الله و رعاك
و السلام عليكم.