فى البدايه أنا لم أكن أريد الرد ولكن عندما وجدتها تقول أشياء خاطئه عن الأسلام وتتفاخر أمام المسيحين وجب الرد ..أنا بجهز الرد ولكن تنقصنى بعض النقاط .. أرجو من خضراتكم المساعده وجزاكم الله خيرا
نص الرساله المرسله :
1. Islam is both oppressive and dismissive to women. Her right to travel, drive, take her children anywhere, have a job, or even leave the house is dependent on permission from a male guardian - which she will have her entire life. The word of one man is equal to two women in Sharia court. One man can accuse a woman of adultery and have her stoned to death. She requires multiple witnesses to prove the same against him. He can date while married because he's allowed to have 4 wives, but she can't because she's allowed only one husband. She also requires multiple male witnesses to prove she was raped or she will be charged with either fornication and get 70 lashes with a whip, or, if married, she'll be charged with adultery and be stoned to death.
2. The hijab is a bloody nuissance to have to wear all the time.
3. The hijab does not make Muslim men more respectful of women but far less so.
4. Prophet Mohammad was never a father. He was possibly sterile because he was known not to neglect his wives in the sack, sometimes visiting each of them in one night. But no children. He did, however, free and then adopted a slave (Bilal I think). His adopted son later married a beautiful woman whom Mohammad was then smitten with and asked his adopted son to divorce so that he, Mohammad, could marry her. Somehow, as a result of this scandalous affair, it became illegal to adopt children (or anyone) in Islam.
5. Combativeness is NOT a virtue. It's a character flaw at the very least, but when carried into military combat, it's an assault on Life itself unless it is in defense of life. Most of Mohammad's wars were offensive, however, and he fought them every year of his entire prophethood. And let's not even talk about the Jewish, Christian, and pagan enclaves he wiped out for no other reason than that they existed but did not convert to Islam.
6. "Profit" means the gaining of money. Not normally the same meaning as "Prophet," but in Prophet/Profit Mohammad's case it may have been true in both senses of the word as he tended to rob an awful lot of caravans.
7. Not all, if any, of Mohammad's wives served purely polictical purposes. He fell in love with his youngest wife to be when she was a newborn and persuaded her father to let him marry her when she was only 6 years old. She was sick for a long time and lost her hair about then (terror of marriage to a 40-something-year-old man perhaps?), however, so the marriage wasn't actually consumated until she was quite recovered and her hair had grown back. She was NINE. I guess paedophillia is considered a virtue in Dar Islam. Here in the US, it's considered a pretty heinous crime.
8. He was NOT kind. Anyone who introduces such barbarities as amputation, stoning to death, whipping, and crucifiction into legislation is anything of the sort.
9. It pisses me off that I can't go to see my Iranian born first child in Iran because Islam says that apostates from Islam have to be executed under Sharia law. I cannot pay lip service to something I absolutely do NOT believe however. It would be demeaning to my very humanity.
10. Any religion that feels the need to kill all dissenters or deserters, ala Mafia and Islam, is definitely false. Truth doesn't need to defend itself with violence or lies.
Sorry, that's just the way it is. It's why I left Islam.
I hope you won't hate me for my rather strong opinions on the matter of Islam. In retrospect, I may be wrong about one thing there anyway. I knew he wasn't a father to children by his other wives but I'd forgotten about his first wife. Tell me about those children?"
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نص الرساله المرسله :
I'm an ex-Muslim. I heard and was shown only the good things before converting but convereted only to please my demanding Muslim husband who apparently couldn't accept me just the way I was. Now he's my ex. I learned the bad things both through personal experience living under Sharia Law and by further study, which included general history, the Sahih Haddith, and the Najubalagha, in addition to the Quran:
1. Islam is both oppressive and dismissive to women. Her right to travel, drive, take her children anywhere, have a job, or even leave the house is dependent on permission from a male guardian - which she will have her entire life. The word of one man is equal to two women in Sharia court. One man can accuse a woman of adultery and have her stoned to death. She requires multiple witnesses to prove the same against him. He can date while married because he's allowed to have 4 wives, but she can't because she's allowed only one husband. She also requires multiple male witnesses to prove she was raped or she will be charged with either fornication and get 70 lashes with a whip, or, if married, she'll be charged with adultery and be stoned to death.
2. The hijab is a bloody nuissance to have to wear all the time.
3. The hijab does not make Muslim men more respectful of women but far less so.
4. Prophet Mohammad was never a father. He was possibly sterile because he was known not to neglect his wives in the sack, sometimes visiting each of them in one night. But no children. He did, however, free and then adopted a slave (Bilal I think). His adopted son later married a beautiful woman whom Mohammad was then smitten with and asked his adopted son to divorce so that he, Mohammad, could marry her. Somehow, as a result of this scandalous affair, it became illegal to adopt children (or anyone) in Islam.
5. Combativeness is NOT a virtue. It's a character flaw at the very least, but when carried into military combat, it's an assault on Life itself unless it is in defense of life. Most of Mohammad's wars were offensive, however, and he fought them every year of his entire prophethood. And let's not even talk about the Jewish, Christian, and pagan enclaves he wiped out for no other reason than that they existed but did not convert to Islam.
6. "Profit" means the gaining of money. Not normally the same meaning as "Prophet," but in Prophet/Profit Mohammad's case it may have been true in both senses of the word as he tended to rob an awful lot of caravans.
7. Not all, if any, of Mohammad's wives served purely polictical purposes. He fell in love with his youngest wife to be when she was a newborn and persuaded her father to let him marry her when she was only 6 years old. She was sick for a long time and lost her hair about then (terror of marriage to a 40-something-year-old man perhaps?), however, so the marriage wasn't actually consumated until she was quite recovered and her hair had grown back. She was NINE. I guess paedophillia is considered a virtue in Dar Islam. Here in the US, it's considered a pretty heinous crime.
8. He was NOT kind. Anyone who introduces such barbarities as amputation, stoning to death, whipping, and crucifiction into legislation is anything of the sort.
9. It pisses me off that I can't go to see my Iranian born first child in Iran because Islam says that apostates from Islam have to be executed under Sharia law. I cannot pay lip service to something I absolutely do NOT believe however. It would be demeaning to my very humanity.
10. Any religion that feels the need to kill all dissenters or deserters, ala Mafia and Islam, is definitely false. Truth doesn't need to defend itself with violence or lies.
Sorry, that's just the way it is. It's why I left Islam.
I hope you won't hate me for my rather strong opinions on the matter of Islam. In retrospect, I may be wrong about one thing there anyway. I knew he wasn't a father to children by his other wives but I'd forgotten about his first wife. Tell me about those children?"
"Some women actually do thrive on tightly controlled captivity and having a male guardian always telling them what they can and can't do. Maybe it makes them feel safe. I'm not one of them. Me, it just infuriates to the level of a killing rage. I was not meant to live in a cage. And I know plenty of restless women over there that think similarly, including one very dear friend who is a Saudi princess. More correctly, the women I know of have been Iranian, Pakistani, Afghan, and Saudi.
Romance was not something I saw much of while living in Iran.
You weren't there were you? I was there from March 1982 through March 1983... I think. The calendar was very different so I'm just guessing it was in or around March.
Anyway... most marriages were arranged and cool in accordance and people would insist that love was only for god. Though the men seemed so loving toward one another that I thought them... well... not exactly normal.
As to "women's rights" in Islam, they didn't feel like rights to me. They felt like the removal of the very expansive rights I was used to - the same rights as men. Or like the rights of someone who is arrested for a crime here: "You have the right to remain silent. Everything you do and say can be used against you in the court of law...." I didn't care for what Islam calls women's rights one bit."
Romance was not something I saw much of while living in Iran.
You weren't there were you? I was there from March 1982 through March 1983... I think. The calendar was very different so I'm just guessing it was in or around March.
Anyway... most marriages were arranged and cool in accordance and people would insist that love was only for god. Though the men seemed so loving toward one another that I thought them... well... not exactly normal.
As to "women's rights" in Islam, they didn't feel like rights to me. They felt like the removal of the very expansive rights I was used to - the same rights as men. Or like the rights of someone who is arrested for a crime here: "You have the right to remain silent. Everything you do and say can be used against you in the court of law...." I didn't care for what Islam calls women's rights one bit."
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