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اكتشاف جديد للنصارى علمتة من احد الاجانب الخبراءفى المسحية اظهار لسة الاكتشاف منزلش فى الدول العربية كالعادة بنتاخر لما ياتى لنا الاكتشافات الحديثة
الاكتشاف بيقول (ان متى قد اوحى الية من قبل الله بنص التعميد ).
اكتشاف فظيع هيعيد الحسابات من جديد.
هذا فى خطاب ارسلتة لة للرد على نص التعميد وكان ردة هكذا وقد ترجمت فقط ما اثر فيا فقط وهو الاكتشاف واليكم نص المكتشف الرهيب
Expert: Dr. Ronald E. Shultz
Subject: more info please
Question: dear sire
In Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:16
because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 10:48
And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ they were baptized both men and.
and
Baptism was the name of Jesus and the disciples were all baptized in Jesus' name had not heard of Christ or the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit.
How far is the baptism name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?
Gospel of Matthew and said a formula contrary to the apostles of Christ,so it was incorrect and false
وكانت الاجابة
Answer: ,
Matthew is part of the inspired Word of God and cannot be false. When you were baptized in the name of someone you were identifying with that person or doing it on their behalf.
Acts 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. KJV
As we can see there was a baptism of John and then one of Jesus.
The tri-unity or trinity of the Godhead was hard for people to understand so that God inspired Matthew to add that formula is not surprising. It is both a teaching tool and stands against modalism and its current expression in Oneness doctrines as well as Gnostic theology.
Oneness doctrine makes God look strange or even crazy. At the baptism of Christ there was clearly a voice from Heaven and the Spirit descended as a dove. That scene makes no sense unless there is a trinity being represented. Also, who is He praying to in the Garden? Himself? Is He asking Himself to spare Himself the cup? And how did He forsake Himself on the Cross? He is not schizophrenic. Jesus clearly spoke of going to the Father and coming from the Father showing the Father to be a separate personality and yet part of a Triune God. He so said that the Spirit could not come until He went. It is not the same person in three different roles. That makes no sense.
Even in the OT we see a trinity.
Isa 48:14-17
14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The Lord hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.
16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me .
17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. KJV
In this passage God is speaking and yet in verse 16 He says that the Lord God and His Spirit sent Him yet He is God. So how many Gods are there? The Scripture is replete with I am the Lord and there is none else type statements. Yet, unless we have a trinity we see 3 Gods in this passage. Two Gods with personality and authority sent the Lord thy God which teacheth thee. That is a hard nut that Jews and Oneness folks cannot crack.
I have included a link from an apologetic site that may also help you with this issue. Just because man cannot always fully understand the nature and character of God as He has shown to us does not mean wee can change it to fit our small minds. If we could throughly understand everything then we would be equal with God or at least on a much higher scale that we are now.
http://carm.org/religious-movements/...sm-be-jesus-na
ياحراس العقيدة نحن فى مازق كبير هنعمل اية طلع متى بيوحى الية هنحلها ازاى شفتوا اكتشاف قوى ازاى
استرها يارب
اكتشاف جديد للنصارى علمتة من احد الاجانب الخبراءفى المسحية اظهار لسة الاكتشاف منزلش فى الدول العربية كالعادة بنتاخر لما ياتى لنا الاكتشافات الحديثة
الاكتشاف بيقول (ان متى قد اوحى الية من قبل الله بنص التعميد ).
اكتشاف فظيع هيعيد الحسابات من جديد.
هذا فى خطاب ارسلتة لة للرد على نص التعميد وكان ردة هكذا وقد ترجمت فقط ما اثر فيا فقط وهو الاكتشاف واليكم نص المكتشف الرهيب
Expert: Dr. Ronald E. Shultz
Subject: more info please
Question: dear sire
In Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:16
because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 10:48
And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ they were baptized both men and.
and
Baptism was the name of Jesus and the disciples were all baptized in Jesus' name had not heard of Christ or the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit.
How far is the baptism name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?
Gospel of Matthew and said a formula contrary to the apostles of Christ,so it was incorrect and false
وكانت الاجابة
Answer: ,
Matthew is part of the inspired Word of God and cannot be false. When you were baptized in the name of someone you were identifying with that person or doing it on their behalf.
Acts 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. KJV
As we can see there was a baptism of John and then one of Jesus.
The tri-unity or trinity of the Godhead was hard for people to understand so that God inspired Matthew to add that formula is not surprising. It is both a teaching tool and stands against modalism and its current expression in Oneness doctrines as well as Gnostic theology.
Oneness doctrine makes God look strange or even crazy. At the baptism of Christ there was clearly a voice from Heaven and the Spirit descended as a dove. That scene makes no sense unless there is a trinity being represented. Also, who is He praying to in the Garden? Himself? Is He asking Himself to spare Himself the cup? And how did He forsake Himself on the Cross? He is not schizophrenic. Jesus clearly spoke of going to the Father and coming from the Father showing the Father to be a separate personality and yet part of a Triune God. He so said that the Spirit could not come until He went. It is not the same person in three different roles. That makes no sense.
Even in the OT we see a trinity.
Isa 48:14-17
14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The Lord hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.
16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me .
17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. KJV
In this passage God is speaking and yet in verse 16 He says that the Lord God and His Spirit sent Him yet He is God. So how many Gods are there? The Scripture is replete with I am the Lord and there is none else type statements. Yet, unless we have a trinity we see 3 Gods in this passage. Two Gods with personality and authority sent the Lord thy God which teacheth thee. That is a hard nut that Jews and Oneness folks cannot crack.
I have included a link from an apologetic site that may also help you with this issue. Just because man cannot always fully understand the nature and character of God as He has shown to us does not mean wee can change it to fit our small minds. If we could throughly understand everything then we would be equal with God or at least on a much higher scale that we are now.
http://carm.org/religious-movements/...sm-be-jesus-na
ياحراس العقيدة نحن فى مازق كبير هنعمل اية طلع متى بيوحى الية هنحلها ازاى شفتوا اكتشاف قوى ازاى
استرها يارب
هو آخر الرسل للإنس والجــن ؟؟
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