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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
اللهم صلي وسلم على سيدنا محمد ..
اليوم أبعث لكم بمحاورة تجري بيني وبين مبشر مسيحي يبلغ من العمر حوالي 28 سنة .. من جزيرة "الدومنيك" ..
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ..
في حوار من فترة لا بأس بها أخبرني هذا النصراني ان المذنبين لا يمكن ان يصلوا الى الله ...فسكت وقتها عن هذا ولم اعلق لانني كنت احاوره في جزئيات اخرى ...
ثم فتح هذا الموضوع مرة اخرى فكان رأيه ( النجاة والخلاص تكون بالايمان وليس بالعمل ) ... فبدأ حواره معي بطريقة يريد ان يتلاعب فيها بعواطفي وكأنه ظنني ممن تنطلي عليهم الاعيبهم وكلامهم الذي لا يدل ظاهره على باطنه ...فكانت كلماته هكذا "ان المسيح واقف على ابواب قلبك مطأطئ الراس ينتظر ان تفتحي قلبك له واعلمي ان قلبك لا يفتح الا من الداخل .. انك لو امنت بالمسيح ..وتقبلته في حياتك ..وفتحت قلبك له ..فانك ستنجين يوم القيامة .... حتى المذنبون السيئون ..فانهم لو امنوا به فانه سوف يطهرهم ويعفو عنهم ...ولن يحاسبهم .." ثم حتى يزيد كلامه خداعا وضع لي وجها باسما !!
فرددت عليه :" أرجوك ! لا تتحدث بهذا الكلام امام احد ! لان المصائب ستزداد اضعاف اضعاف ما هي عليه الان ....رفقا بهذا الكوكب !!"
قال لي :"لم افهم ! اوضحي "
قلت له :" انك تعطي الضوء الاخضر للمجرمين بان يسرحوا ويمرحوا كما يريدون طالما انهم يؤمنون بالمسيح ...لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون ...مأواهم الجنة تماما مثل الذي عبد وصلى وعمل صالحا !! أي مجتمع صالح سيكون هذا من تسوده هذه الافكار ؟؟"
ثم غير رأيه –بعد لحظة لا باس فيها من الصمت – وقال :" لا لا لا اسمعي ماذا يقول الكتاب المقدس " ..وبعث لي عددا –الصراحة انني لااذكره تماما " ولكن بما معناه : ان الذين يؤمنون بالمسيح ثم يذنبون ويفعلون ما نهى عنه فانهم كمن ينعته بالكذب " ...
قلت : ياللعجب ! ما هذه السرعة في تغيير الاراء ؟؟
قال : انا بشر ...والبشر يخطئ وهنا الحكم يكون "النصوص الصحيحة " (!!!!!) والعودة الى الكتاب المقدس ...وانا اخبرتك رايا خاطئا ثم تاكدت منه !
( طبعا انا غضضت البصر عن انه يتحدث في امر من اهم امور العقيدو بهذه الطريقة !! )
فقلت : طيب ! انت مؤمن صح ؟
قال :نعم !
قلت : الا تذنب احيانا ...يعني لا تحاول ان تقنعني انك معصوم ,,,
قال : نعم اذنب احيانا
قلت : باختصار انت ممن يقول عن السيد المسيح انه كاذب ! تؤمن وتذنب ؟؟؟؟؟ ما هذا ؟؟؟ انظر الى النص الصريح في الكتاب المقدس خاصتك !
فقال : اسمعي ! ان كنت تريدين الجدال ...فانا لست هنا لاجادل ....فهذا مضيعة للوقت ...ولكنني هنا لادلك على الهداية ..."ان كنت تريدين الهداية ".....فاسمحي لي يجب ان اخرج ...
وانتهى حواري ذلك اليوم !!!
المهم ...بعد فترة عاد النصراني ليتحدى فبعث لي هذا الفيديو ..." what is Christian faith ? "
وهذا الرابط اذا اردت الاطلاع عليه
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tian+faith+%3F
"هو باختصار رأي من يقول ان الانسان يتبرر بالايمان فقط وليس بالعمل "
الان انا احاول الرد عليه ...وهذا بعض ما احاول ان ارد عليه الان ..أرجو ان تسفيدوا منه وتفيدوني رعاكم الله
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Peace be upon who follows the righteous way ….
We praise Allah (Glorified and Exalted Be He ), thank Him, seek His help, guidance and forgiveness. We seek refuge in Allah from the evil in our souls and the sinfulness of our deeds. “He whom Allah guides, he is the rightly-guided; but he whom He sends astray, for him you will find no guiding advocate.”
Dear Clive,
Thanks for sending me that Video “What is Christian faith?” ,for it made a lot of things clear for me …this encouraged me to go back to the bible and know more … “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" John 8:32 NIV
And I found Many surprising things …!
The preacher was – surely- depending on the bible while giving that lecture …
What I understood is that In order to be justified we need faith ..
Even if we are bad “like that woman in the example “then we will be justified ONLY if we believe in Jesus and that he died for our salvation …
if we are doing good things without having the faith then …we are not gonna be justified ….
Right ???
And I found what approves this in what Paul wrote in the bible ..
a-“Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law” (Romans 3:28)
b-“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified”(Galatians 2:16)
c- “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree”(Galatians 3:11)
d-“For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.”(Romans 4:2)
But, in the same bible that you use..and that approves the previous sayings .. look what I found !! -à
a-The Bible told us
“But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die” Ezekiel 18:21 NKJV
it is not mentioned that the wicked Must believe in Jesus sacrifice to LIVE..
b- Jesus Ordered to keep the commandments opposing Paul’s sayings …
“And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.“(Mathew19:16)
Jesus –Peace be upon him – Didn’t say by HIMSELF “ Believe in my sacrifice on the cross and you will be saved “ ..he didn’t tell that guy that he is too wrong and too bad to be rescued without his believe in the “crucifixion & redemption “ … he repeated it “Keep the commandments “ and nothing else . If Jesus was originally sent for this sacrifice ..and was prepared from the Beginning for this why didn’t he say it ??? isn’t it strange not to be mentioned on the tongue of Jesus ?
c-Jesus Made it really clear that he didn’t come to destroy the law ..see this ..
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (Mathew 5:17)
d-Jesus peace be upon him ordered to keep the commandments and not only faith … Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mathew 5 :19)
The orders of Jesus are the same of what was written in James …take a look !..
“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?(James 2:14)
“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?… And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only… For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also..”(James 2:17)
“”how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only””
???????????كcompare it with what Paul saidà???????????
“”a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law””
Doesn’t this make you a little worried ??doesn’t this make you have doubts ??
The previous sayings of Jesus –Peace be upon him – don’t contradict with what is written in James ..but Really disagree what Paul wrote … And as you know the rules of faith depends on what Paul says ! Weird !!
Was Jesus deceiving you according to the new testament ..and after that Paul came to tell you the truth ??? or did Paul disagree with Jesus ??ha ?? how you explain it ??
For me it is obvious that there is a contradiction!!
Now ..let’s leave all of this ..and think about it ! Think about it !
The True religion will SURELY suite the nature of any human being ..as it was revealed by the ONE who created us ..the One who knows us more than any one else ..right ?
Now ! I will take you far away from religion to politics …
The question : “what made the communist rule –that u r against - collapse ??”
The answer : it was against the nature of humans …
People are to do their best ..and after that the one who does his best in work will receive the same reward as the one who didn’t work ! !! this forced every one to stop working … coz this wasn’t JUST..
Let me give you another example :
If I tell you that I will give you 1,000,000 $ ..And that I will give it to you if you do one of the following choices :
a) To do a very exhausting job like carrying heavy rocks 12 hours daily for a week to the top of a mountain ….
b) To go to sleep …have some entertainment and come after a week and take them !
As a human ! you will decide the second choice ! coz if you chose the first you would be “CRAZY !”
God the wise revealed a religion to purify the society and to make humans do their best and compete between each other in doing good things
“and for this let those aspire, who have aspirations”(Holly Quran)…
“Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your lord, and for a garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of earth, prepared for the righteous Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men; for God loves those who do good; And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, and ask for forgiveness for their sins, and who can forgive sins except God? and are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done”(Holly Quran)
this cant happen when God tells us “Even if you do wrong things then you will enter paradise only if you believe ! “ …
God the one who created us knows the nature of the humans …he knows that we are too weak in the face of temptation of Satan ..and he knows that there must be a motivating factor to make us face the temptation and be better ..it is paradise …and there must be a condition to enter it ..it is that those who will enter it should be the best “right faith + good deeds “
Above all , God is just …how can he make a sinner person “who has only Faith “ have the same reward as the sincere believer who approves his faith with good deeds ??????? where is justice in this ??
Conclusion : If Christianity was revealed from God it would
1) suite the nature of humans ( and it is clear that it does NOT )
2) Answer my little questions !! “and give me one direct answer not two or more contradicted ( answers)! “
What Does Islam say about this …?
Well, Islam is SO clear about this …
In order to be accepted by God you need
1) the right faith “the right intentions “
2) the good deeds …
good deeds without the right faith will not help you …. BUT this person who has good deeds without the right faith will be rewarded in this life only ….”justice! “
Faith without a good deed …then , it is obvious that there is sth wrong with this heart coz its faith didn’t help to guide this person to righteousness.. !
“Repentance ,faith AND Good deeds are always together in Quran”
Allah says :” But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion gardens, Beneath which rivers flow Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: why, this is what we were fed with before, for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever).” (holly Quran)
And Allah says :”But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the garden: therein shall they abide (for ever).”
And says :” If they had kept their faith and guarded themselves from evil, far better had been the reward from their Lord, if they but knew! “ (holly Quran)
And says:”Ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer: for God is with those who patiently persevere. “(holly Quran)
“ Except for those who repent, mend (their life), hold fast to God, and purify their religion as in God's sight: if so they will be (numbered) with the believers. and soon will God grant to the believers a reward of immense value. “(holly Quran)
AND in the same time the real Muslim shouldn’t say “Well, I am good enough that I don’t need you,God ! “
“They impress on thee as a favour that they have embraced Islam. Say, Count not your Islam as a favour upon me: nay, God has conferred a favour upon you that He has guided you to the Faith, if ye be true and sincere” (Holy Quran)
The real Muslim’s heart should stay between two levels ..
1)fear “good deeds were not accepted if some pride .. hypocrisy accompanied them ... or fear from laziness in the future .. etc”
2)hope” that God will accept this PURE work and bless it … hope that he will help this person to do more good deeds in the future … “
NO despair … No slackening…
Now ..this needs a little time to think about it ..
We are in front of 2 choices here..that this native religion “Islam “ ..
1) was made up by an illiterate Bedouin called Muhammed Before 1400 years
2)Or , it was revealed by God” the one who knows the nature of humans “ to this Man ..and that his illiteracy was a great miracle to prove that he is not lying or making anything from his own …
NOW ! If you ignore this Letter …then you need to know that you are not following more than a blind faith …
The REAL believer Must follow the truth wherever he finds it ..
And if you love JESUS then believe in the Quran that says about him
“Behold the angels said: O Mary God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God”(Holly Quran )
“Behold God said: O Jesus I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the day of resurrection: then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute” (Holly Quran )
Allah says in his book :” O people of the book commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and his word, which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and his apostles. say not trinity: desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: glory be to him: (far exalted is he) above having a son. to him belong all things in the heavens and on earth, and enough is God as a disposer of affairs “(Holly Quran )
and doesn’t say like what the bible says about him …
(And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.(Mathew 15:22 )
While Quran says this about Jesus ..read ..
“(He) hath made me kind To my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; - So peace is on me The day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)! “(Holly Quran)
“Such (was) Jesus the son Of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.” (Holly Quran)
ur bible says this abou him –Peace be upon him-:
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! (John 19:26)
“Woman ! “..is this how ur bible tells you that Jesus treats his mother ??????…this is a crime in islam !
but if it is O.K. in Christianity then that is a greater Catastrophe !
And remember ..what is mentioned in ur bible …
Jesus says in the Gospel of Matthew "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'” Matthew 7:21-23 NIV
and here what is in our Quran …”And quran approves the Bible in this ..see “
Clive…this is a case of LIFE or DEATH …
It is Eternal life in heaven ….or eternal life in HELL …
Doesn’t this deserve 5 min thinking from you ?
Just try to suppose that Islam is right ..SUPPOSE…I am not asking you to follow a blind faith like what you are asking me to do ..I am asking you to stop for 5 min and to think about Islam ..
Do you really know Islam ???
What do you know about Islam ??
Didn’t you add me from the beginning to know more about my faith ..
What do you think about giving me a chance to explain it to you ..
To tell you who is JESUS in Islam ..
Give me a chance to tell you that the faith a Muslim is not accepted if he/she doesn’t believe in Jesus …
the faith of a Muslim is not accepted if he/she doesn’t believe in the original bible “Real bible not perverted one..the bible that was revealed from God to his apostle Jesus Peace be upon him “ ..
If you don’t think about this now ???then when will you think about it ?? are you sure that you’ll keep breathing till tomorrow or after tomorrow ? I don’t know whether I am going to die after a min or what ..
It is serious …
I don’t want you to close your eyes …and stop listening to me … I don’t want you to adopt more contradicting opinions ..I will remind you
First you said “Sinners do NOT reach God “…then you changed your mind … “Faith will save you even if you are a sinner “… then “If you have faith and keep doing sins then you are calling the Lord a liar “ …then you sent me that video …now what ????
WHAT ???
May God guide you to the truth …
Ur friend ,
Wi’am[/CENTER]
اللهم صلي وسلم على سيدنا محمد ..
اليوم أبعث لكم بمحاورة تجري بيني وبين مبشر مسيحي يبلغ من العمر حوالي 28 سنة .. من جزيرة "الدومنيك" ..
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ..
في حوار من فترة لا بأس بها أخبرني هذا النصراني ان المذنبين لا يمكن ان يصلوا الى الله ...فسكت وقتها عن هذا ولم اعلق لانني كنت احاوره في جزئيات اخرى ...
ثم فتح هذا الموضوع مرة اخرى فكان رأيه ( النجاة والخلاص تكون بالايمان وليس بالعمل ) ... فبدأ حواره معي بطريقة يريد ان يتلاعب فيها بعواطفي وكأنه ظنني ممن تنطلي عليهم الاعيبهم وكلامهم الذي لا يدل ظاهره على باطنه ...فكانت كلماته هكذا "ان المسيح واقف على ابواب قلبك مطأطئ الراس ينتظر ان تفتحي قلبك له واعلمي ان قلبك لا يفتح الا من الداخل .. انك لو امنت بالمسيح ..وتقبلته في حياتك ..وفتحت قلبك له ..فانك ستنجين يوم القيامة .... حتى المذنبون السيئون ..فانهم لو امنوا به فانه سوف يطهرهم ويعفو عنهم ...ولن يحاسبهم .." ثم حتى يزيد كلامه خداعا وضع لي وجها باسما !!
فرددت عليه :" أرجوك ! لا تتحدث بهذا الكلام امام احد ! لان المصائب ستزداد اضعاف اضعاف ما هي عليه الان ....رفقا بهذا الكوكب !!"
قال لي :"لم افهم ! اوضحي "
قلت له :" انك تعطي الضوء الاخضر للمجرمين بان يسرحوا ويمرحوا كما يريدون طالما انهم يؤمنون بالمسيح ...لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون ...مأواهم الجنة تماما مثل الذي عبد وصلى وعمل صالحا !! أي مجتمع صالح سيكون هذا من تسوده هذه الافكار ؟؟"
ثم غير رأيه –بعد لحظة لا باس فيها من الصمت – وقال :" لا لا لا اسمعي ماذا يقول الكتاب المقدس " ..وبعث لي عددا –الصراحة انني لااذكره تماما " ولكن بما معناه : ان الذين يؤمنون بالمسيح ثم يذنبون ويفعلون ما نهى عنه فانهم كمن ينعته بالكذب " ...
قلت : ياللعجب ! ما هذه السرعة في تغيير الاراء ؟؟
قال : انا بشر ...والبشر يخطئ وهنا الحكم يكون "النصوص الصحيحة " (!!!!!) والعودة الى الكتاب المقدس ...وانا اخبرتك رايا خاطئا ثم تاكدت منه !
( طبعا انا غضضت البصر عن انه يتحدث في امر من اهم امور العقيدو بهذه الطريقة !! )
فقلت : طيب ! انت مؤمن صح ؟
قال :نعم !
قلت : الا تذنب احيانا ...يعني لا تحاول ان تقنعني انك معصوم ,,,
قال : نعم اذنب احيانا
قلت : باختصار انت ممن يقول عن السيد المسيح انه كاذب ! تؤمن وتذنب ؟؟؟؟؟ ما هذا ؟؟؟ انظر الى النص الصريح في الكتاب المقدس خاصتك !
فقال : اسمعي ! ان كنت تريدين الجدال ...فانا لست هنا لاجادل ....فهذا مضيعة للوقت ...ولكنني هنا لادلك على الهداية ..."ان كنت تريدين الهداية ".....فاسمحي لي يجب ان اخرج ...
وانتهى حواري ذلك اليوم !!!
المهم ...بعد فترة عاد النصراني ليتحدى فبعث لي هذا الفيديو ..." what is Christian faith ? "
وهذا الرابط اذا اردت الاطلاع عليه
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tian+faith+%3F
"هو باختصار رأي من يقول ان الانسان يتبرر بالايمان فقط وليس بالعمل "
الان انا احاول الرد عليه ...وهذا بعض ما احاول ان ارد عليه الان ..أرجو ان تسفيدوا منه وتفيدوني رعاكم الله
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Peace be upon who follows the righteous way ….
We praise Allah (Glorified and Exalted Be He ), thank Him, seek His help, guidance and forgiveness. We seek refuge in Allah from the evil in our souls and the sinfulness of our deeds. “He whom Allah guides, he is the rightly-guided; but he whom He sends astray, for him you will find no guiding advocate.”
Dear Clive,
Thanks for sending me that Video “What is Christian faith?” ,for it made a lot of things clear for me …this encouraged me to go back to the bible and know more … “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" John 8:32 NIV
And I found Many surprising things …!
The preacher was – surely- depending on the bible while giving that lecture …
What I understood is that In order to be justified we need faith ..
Even if we are bad “like that woman in the example “then we will be justified ONLY if we believe in Jesus and that he died for our salvation …
if we are doing good things without having the faith then …we are not gonna be justified ….
Right ???
And I found what approves this in what Paul wrote in the bible ..
a-“Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law” (Romans 3:28)
b-“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified”(Galatians 2:16)
c- “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree”(Galatians 3:11)
d-“For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.”(Romans 4:2)
But, in the same bible that you use..and that approves the previous sayings .. look what I found !! -à
a-The Bible told us
“But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die” Ezekiel 18:21 NKJV
it is not mentioned that the wicked Must believe in Jesus sacrifice to LIVE..
b- Jesus Ordered to keep the commandments opposing Paul’s sayings …
“And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.“(Mathew19:16)
Jesus –Peace be upon him – Didn’t say by HIMSELF “ Believe in my sacrifice on the cross and you will be saved “ ..he didn’t tell that guy that he is too wrong and too bad to be rescued without his believe in the “crucifixion & redemption “ … he repeated it “Keep the commandments “ and nothing else . If Jesus was originally sent for this sacrifice ..and was prepared from the Beginning for this why didn’t he say it ??? isn’t it strange not to be mentioned on the tongue of Jesus ?
c-Jesus Made it really clear that he didn’t come to destroy the law ..see this ..
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (Mathew 5:17)
d-Jesus peace be upon him ordered to keep the commandments and not only faith … Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mathew 5 :19)
The orders of Jesus are the same of what was written in James …take a look !..
“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?(James 2:14)
“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?… And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only… For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also..”(James 2:17)
“”how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only””
???????????كcompare it with what Paul saidà???????????
“”a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law””
Doesn’t this make you a little worried ??doesn’t this make you have doubts ??
The previous sayings of Jesus –Peace be upon him – don’t contradict with what is written in James ..but Really disagree what Paul wrote … And as you know the rules of faith depends on what Paul says ! Weird !!
Was Jesus deceiving you according to the new testament ..and after that Paul came to tell you the truth ??? or did Paul disagree with Jesus ??ha ?? how you explain it ??
For me it is obvious that there is a contradiction!!
Now ..let’s leave all of this ..and think about it ! Think about it !
The True religion will SURELY suite the nature of any human being ..as it was revealed by the ONE who created us ..the One who knows us more than any one else ..right ?
Now ! I will take you far away from religion to politics …
The question : “what made the communist rule –that u r against - collapse ??”
The answer : it was against the nature of humans …
People are to do their best ..and after that the one who does his best in work will receive the same reward as the one who didn’t work ! !! this forced every one to stop working … coz this wasn’t JUST..
Let me give you another example :
If I tell you that I will give you 1,000,000 $ ..And that I will give it to you if you do one of the following choices :
a) To do a very exhausting job like carrying heavy rocks 12 hours daily for a week to the top of a mountain ….
b) To go to sleep …have some entertainment and come after a week and take them !
As a human ! you will decide the second choice ! coz if you chose the first you would be “CRAZY !”
God the wise revealed a religion to purify the society and to make humans do their best and compete between each other in doing good things
“and for this let those aspire, who have aspirations”(Holly Quran)…
“Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your lord, and for a garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of earth, prepared for the righteous Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men; for God loves those who do good; And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, and ask for forgiveness for their sins, and who can forgive sins except God? and are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done”(Holly Quran)
this cant happen when God tells us “Even if you do wrong things then you will enter paradise only if you believe ! “ …
God the one who created us knows the nature of the humans …he knows that we are too weak in the face of temptation of Satan ..and he knows that there must be a motivating factor to make us face the temptation and be better ..it is paradise …and there must be a condition to enter it ..it is that those who will enter it should be the best “right faith + good deeds “
Above all , God is just …how can he make a sinner person “who has only Faith “ have the same reward as the sincere believer who approves his faith with good deeds ??????? where is justice in this ??
Conclusion : If Christianity was revealed from God it would
1) suite the nature of humans ( and it is clear that it does NOT )
2) Answer my little questions !! “and give me one direct answer not two or more contradicted ( answers)! “
What Does Islam say about this …?
Well, Islam is SO clear about this …
In order to be accepted by God you need
1) the right faith “the right intentions “
2) the good deeds …
good deeds without the right faith will not help you …. BUT this person who has good deeds without the right faith will be rewarded in this life only ….”justice! “
Faith without a good deed …then , it is obvious that there is sth wrong with this heart coz its faith didn’t help to guide this person to righteousness.. !
“Repentance ,faith AND Good deeds are always together in Quran”
Allah says :” But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion gardens, Beneath which rivers flow Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: why, this is what we were fed with before, for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever).” (holly Quran)
And Allah says :”But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the garden: therein shall they abide (for ever).”
And says :” If they had kept their faith and guarded themselves from evil, far better had been the reward from their Lord, if they but knew! “ (holly Quran)
And says:”Ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer: for God is with those who patiently persevere. “(holly Quran)
“ Except for those who repent, mend (their life), hold fast to God, and purify their religion as in God's sight: if so they will be (numbered) with the believers. and soon will God grant to the believers a reward of immense value. “(holly Quran)
AND in the same time the real Muslim shouldn’t say “Well, I am good enough that I don’t need you,God ! “
“They impress on thee as a favour that they have embraced Islam. Say, Count not your Islam as a favour upon me: nay, God has conferred a favour upon you that He has guided you to the Faith, if ye be true and sincere” (Holy Quran)
The real Muslim’s heart should stay between two levels ..
1)fear “good deeds were not accepted if some pride .. hypocrisy accompanied them ... or fear from laziness in the future .. etc”
2)hope” that God will accept this PURE work and bless it … hope that he will help this person to do more good deeds in the future … “
NO despair … No slackening…
Now ..this needs a little time to think about it ..
We are in front of 2 choices here..that this native religion “Islam “ ..
1) was made up by an illiterate Bedouin called Muhammed Before 1400 years
2)Or , it was revealed by God” the one who knows the nature of humans “ to this Man ..and that his illiteracy was a great miracle to prove that he is not lying or making anything from his own …
NOW ! If you ignore this Letter …then you need to know that you are not following more than a blind faith …
The REAL believer Must follow the truth wherever he finds it ..
And if you love JESUS then believe in the Quran that says about him
“Behold the angels said: O Mary God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God”(Holly Quran )
“Behold God said: O Jesus I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the day of resurrection: then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute” (Holly Quran )
Allah says in his book :” O people of the book commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and his word, which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and his apostles. say not trinity: desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: glory be to him: (far exalted is he) above having a son. to him belong all things in the heavens and on earth, and enough is God as a disposer of affairs “(Holly Quran )
and doesn’t say like what the bible says about him …
(And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.(Mathew 15:22 )
While Quran says this about Jesus ..read ..
“(He) hath made me kind To my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; - So peace is on me The day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)! “(Holly Quran)
“Such (was) Jesus the son Of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.” (Holly Quran)
ur bible says this abou him –Peace be upon him-:
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! (John 19:26)
“Woman ! “..is this how ur bible tells you that Jesus treats his mother ??????…this is a crime in islam !
but if it is O.K. in Christianity then that is a greater Catastrophe !
And remember ..what is mentioned in ur bible …
Jesus says in the Gospel of Matthew "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'” Matthew 7:21-23 NIV
and here what is in our Quran …”And quran approves the Bible in this ..see “
Clive…this is a case of LIFE or DEATH …
It is Eternal life in heaven ….or eternal life in HELL …
Doesn’t this deserve 5 min thinking from you ?
Just try to suppose that Islam is right ..SUPPOSE…I am not asking you to follow a blind faith like what you are asking me to do ..I am asking you to stop for 5 min and to think about Islam ..
Do you really know Islam ???
What do you know about Islam ??
Didn’t you add me from the beginning to know more about my faith ..
What do you think about giving me a chance to explain it to you ..
To tell you who is JESUS in Islam ..
Give me a chance to tell you that the faith a Muslim is not accepted if he/she doesn’t believe in Jesus …
the faith of a Muslim is not accepted if he/she doesn’t believe in the original bible “Real bible not perverted one..the bible that was revealed from God to his apostle Jesus Peace be upon him “ ..
If you don’t think about this now ???then when will you think about it ?? are you sure that you’ll keep breathing till tomorrow or after tomorrow ? I don’t know whether I am going to die after a min or what ..
It is serious …
I don’t want you to close your eyes …and stop listening to me … I don’t want you to adopt more contradicting opinions ..I will remind you
First you said “Sinners do NOT reach God “…then you changed your mind … “Faith will save you even if you are a sinner “… then “If you have faith and keep doing sins then you are calling the Lord a liar “ …then you sent me that video …now what ????
WHAT ???
May God guide you to the truth …
Ur friend ,
Wi’am[/CENTER]
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