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جزاكم الله الفردوس الأعلى جميعا
مسلم
اكتشف المزيد حول عمرو وليد
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فلا داعي لهذا الأسلوب في الحوارات خاصة أن محاورك لم يبد منه ما يدعو لذلك، فهذا حوار و ليس مناظرة.أخى عبدالله معذرة إذا كنت إستخدمت إسلوب خطأ (فنحن بشر)
وجزاك الله خيراً على التنبيهتعليق
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أخي الحبيب، جزاك الله خيراً على مشاركتك القيمة، لم أقصد توجيه كلامي هذا لك بشكل مباشر، و لم أقصد أن يكون لوماً أو عتاباً، لكن فقط أرد أن أبين سبب عدم تفضيلي لكتابة مثل هذه الجمل ...
و نحن كلنا نخطئ و نرد بعضنا إلى الصواب، فالدين النصيحة.. و استمر في مشاركاتك القيمة، بارك الله فيك.(قُلِ اللَّهُمَّ فَاطِرَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ عَالِمَ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ أَنتَ تَحْكُمُ بَيْنَ عِبَادِكَ فِي مَا كَانُوا فِيهِ يَخْتَلِفُونَ) الزمر46
(اللهم رب جبرائيل ومكائيل وإسرافيل فاطر السموات والأرض عالم الغيب والشهادة أنت تحكم بين عبادك فيما كانوا فيه يختلفون ، اهدني لما اختلف فيه من الحق بإذنك ، إنك تهدي من تشاء إلى صراط مستقيم) من حديث استفتاح النبي - صلى الله عليه و سلم - صلاته بالليل.
الراوي: عائشة - المحدث: مسلم - المصدر: صحيح مسلم - الصفحة أو الرقم: 770 خلاصة الدرجة: صحيح
(وَكَفَى بِرَبِّكَ هَادِيًا وَنَصِيرًا) الفرقان 31
(رَبَّنَا لاَ تُزِغْ قُلُوبَنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَيْتَنَا وَهَبْ لَنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْوَهَّابُ) آل عمران 8
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وإن لم تقصد أخى الكريم فهذا واجبك نحوىلم أقصد توجيه كلامي هذا لك بشكل مباشر
بالعكس أخى, فأنا أؤيد اللوم والعتاب مادام اللوم والعتاب بين الأحبابو لم أقصد أن يكون لوماً أو عتابا
وهذا التفضيل لم يأتى من فراغ بل هو نتيجة خبرة الأستاذ الواجب على التلاميذ النهل منها قدر المستطاعلكن فقط أرد أن أبين سبب عدم تفضيلي لكتابة مثل هذه الجمل ...
أصبت أخى الكريم, وأعاننا الله على أن نكون فى عون بعضو نحن كلنا نخطئ و نرد بعضنا إلى الصواب، فالدين النصيحة
والله أستاذنا الفاضل أنت ترفع من معنوياتى, فأنا أرى مشاركاتى متواضعة جداً مقارنة بمشاركاتك و مشاركات الإخوة والأخواتو استمر في مشاركاتك القيمة، بارك الله فيك.
بارك الله فيكم وفى جميع من يساهم فى نشر الدين الإسلامى
أعتذر عن الإطالة, ولكن رسولنا الكريم عليه أفضل الصلاة والسلام علمنا أن نعطى كل ذى حق حقه
وفقنا الله وإياكم إلى ما يحب ويرضىتعليق
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شـكــ وبارك الله فيك ـــرا لك ... لك مني أجمل تحية . شـكــ وبارك الله فيك ـــرا لك ... لك مني أجمل تحية .تعليق
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
^_^ أمل ان تكونوا جميعا بأتم الصحه إخوتي في الله
وصلني اليوم رد من صاحب السؤال ....
Sorry my friend but you are mistaken, because we are talking about the EARTH CREATION not the heaven, Knowing that the day and the night on the EARTH can't be happen without the sun, and if you think that the GOD is the ultimate source of the light (ON THE EARTH) and the sun is unneccesary so why the GOD have created the sun???
why his light is not here any more?
Day and night on earth CAN happen without the sun because it is refering to the TIME. The literal 24 hour periods of the first day and night. In the winter in the arctic the sun does not shine for several months...are you saying that days stop because you cannot have day and night without the sun? As for HIS Light still being here in the world...it is. It shines through the life of every True Christian, but because you are a religous person, you will not see it.
God does not want religous people, (those who try to please God in their own power) He wants people who love Him as he has loved us, and gave His Son Jesus Christ, who died, was buried, and rose again according to the Scriptures, so that we may have eternal life.
The Bible Says that Earth is flat !!
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)
Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
Have you heard of a figure of speech? The four corners of the earth refer to North West, East and South. They aren't refering to the actual dimensions of the earth. Let's take Matthew for example: Even Matthew knew that there wasn't an exceedingly high mountain high enough to see all the Kingdoms of the world. It's a figure of speech.
There are things in the Bible that are written as poetry, some things written as literal truth, others are written as Parables. And you because you are not Saved, nor do you have the Holy Spirit to guide you, cannot understand these things because they are spiritually discerned. Once you repent and Trust in Jesus Christ, the Bible will become alive and truly become the Living Word.
there isn't any conclusive archeological evidence that he did or did not destroy Egypt
Actually there is... and let me quote this from the book named "The Assyrian and Babelonian empires and other states of the near east from the eight to sixth centuries B.C." by Jogn Boardman, Cambridge Univeristy Press
"The claims that Nebuchadrezzar invaded Egypt itself rests mainly on Old Testament references, which imply an attack on Egyptian temples in Heliopolis and Tehpanhes. No inscriptions of this reign have yet been found in Egypt" and then he refutes a fragmentary babylonian text with these claims.
And another quote from the book "A history of ancient Israel and Judah" By James Maxwell Miller,John Haralson Hayes
"[601-600 B.C.] Nebuchadrezzar sent his army and marched into Hatti land ... The king of Egypt [Neco] heard of it and sent out his army; they clashed in an open battle and inflicted heavy losses on each other. The king of Akkad and his army turned back and returned to Babylon."
"The frank Babylonian report demonstrates that Nebuchadrezzar attempted to invade Egypt late in 601 BC but was either defeated or fought to a draw ..."
Both Encarta and Britannica Encyclopedias mention an attempt to invade Egypt later in his reign, with no evidence of any sort of success, leave a part the claims of the destroy of Egypt..
Well there are a few comments to be made there. First, again like I said, just because they haven't found evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Secondly, do they honestly think that Egypt would record such a defeat? Ancient civilizations would NEVER record such a defeat at the hands of their enemies.
Incidently that is one of the reasons why the Bible is so trustworthy. The Bible often records the errors and weaknesses of it's heros. Moses striking the rock, David committing adultry, Peter denying Christ three times. No other ancient writings do that. Why? It's a sign of weakness. The Bible records those errors to show us that only through God we can have strength to succeed. And only with the Power of the Holy Spirit can we serve God.
My friend again you misunderstood ISLAM, the fight (NOT VIOLENCE) you are talking about in ISLAM is to support the true religion not for violence like what you said, to support the WEAK muslims, not to force people to be muslims.
So you are telling me, all those people in the Middle east who are persecuting my Christian brothers, the ones who are throwing them in jail, slaying them with the sword in the name of Allah, are ALL WRONG, and YOU are right? Whenever we hear of a muslim terrorist killing someone that terrorist ALWAYS points to the Quran to support his evil. He points to the verses that I pointed to and says "We must fight for Allah" When a child of a muslim family converts to Christianity that child's life is in danger. In North America there have been over 20 "Honor Killings" where muslim children have been killed by their brothers or fathers for converting to Christianity. EVERY time, they point to the Quran as their reason for their violence. Are they ALL WRONG and YOU are right? They are reading the same Quran as you are aren't they?
Christ told his followers "Love your enemy's, do good to those who persecute you and pray for those who use you"
Let's check together(Joshua 6)
21And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
22But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her.
23And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel.
24And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
These verses are commands to God for a specific people in a specific time. I never denied that God commanded cities to be destroyed and people groups to be killed. But no one in their right mind would be able to look at this verse and then strap a bomb to their chest blow themselves up because they believed God told them too. However Muslims do it just about every day around the world, and they quote the Quoran while they do it.
(Luke 19)
27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Again, because you do not wish to have an honest discussion, you copy and paste verses from other websites instead of thinking for yourself. Read the whole chapter of Luke 19. Jesus is speaking in a Parable. A Parable is when you tell a story about something with the intension of drawing out a larger meaning. These things didn't actually happen, but they are stories told do explain a lesson. There are MANY parables in the new Testament, like "The Wheat and the Tares", "The Good Fish and Bad Fish""The Prodical Son" for example. These things didn't actually happen, but they were stories Jesus told to make a point. What you have quoted in Luke 19 is a parable, and if you HONESTLY read the entire chapter and come to the conclusion that Jesus is telling us (his followers) to be violent, then my friend you have been decieved.
My friend, Jesus Christ died for you and Loves you with a love that you may never understand. He wants to have a relationship with you, and to commune with you as a brother. Repent of your sins, and trust in Christ, and God will save you, and you will have eternal life. Eternal life starts NOW, not when you die. You are spending so much time, serving a lie, when you could be serving the one true God who loves you and desires for you to be saved. You cannot earn God's favor, he is too Holy, and Righteous, and you are a sinner. If you refuse to repent, on that final Judgment day, God will be forced to give you justice and you will be punished for your sin in Hell for eternity. Surrender to Christ my friend and you will pass from death to life, and your eyes will be opened.
May the Spirit of the Living God open your eyes.
With Love,
Billy D
جزاكم الله الف خير
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
حياكم الله اخي الكريم و هذة بعض الردود السريعة
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اولا عن موضوع خلق الشمس
Regarding the creation of the sun
is strange that a man believed to be an intellectual like night and day were created before the creation of the sun and everyone knows that day and night producing the Earth's rotation around the sun and if we assume that the light was produced by the light of God, what interpretation of that day and night tracking Does this mean that God was shown in The day to light up and disappears into the night to solve the dark
And what about the creation of plants, but you know that a plant necessary process of photosynthesis, and it needs the sun and the Bible tells us that the plant has created before the creation of the sun How can we explain that
[ New King James ]-[ Gn:1:11 ]-[ And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. ]
[ Amplified Bible ]-[ Gn:1:16 ]-[ And God made the two great lights--the greater light (the sun) to rule the day and the lesser light (the moon) to rule the night. He also made the stars. ]
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اما عن موضوع زوايا الارض الاربعة الارض
As for the subject of the four corners of the earth ground
You say the Bible said the four corners of the earth in
[ New King James ]-[ Ez:7:2 ]-[ Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. ]
[ New King James ]-[ Rv:7:1 ]-[ And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. ]
[ New King James ]-[ Rv:20:8 ]-[ And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. ]
You claim he was referring to points of land north and south, east and west and this is completely wrong Bible distinguishes between the various corners of the earth and the earth came in
[ New King James ]-[ Chr1:9:24 ]-[ In four quarters were the porters, toward the east, west, north, and south. ]
The book distinguishes between relevant and scientific mistake is still the land is not flat and it also claims the four corners of the Bible
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اما بخصوص العنف في الكتاب المقدس
As for violence in the Bible
You'll claim that the texts that say
[ King James Version ]-[ Sm1:15:3 ]-[ Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. ]
[ New King James ]-[ Ez:9:6 ]-[ Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. ]
Were for certain people and particular time even if it is so you do believe that Christ is God and God does not change
[ New King James ]-[ Mal:3:6 ]-[ For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. ]
Christ is one of ordering the murder of these children and human beings and animals, and you can not deny that, but if Jesus was not God or that there are two god
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اما ان المسيح جاء لفدائي و مات من اجلي
Either that Christ came and died for the commando for me
I defy you to attend me the text of the Gospel and one says that Christ came for the seeker from Adam's sin Christ did not say the name of Adam even once and only one, but Jesus said
[ New King James ]-[ Mal:3:6 ]-[ For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. ]
Any written talking about that the issue of sin and redemption and only the steel industry and the church is an ancient pagan idea already of Horus and Mithra Buddha and all the sons of the sun has gone down for a scapegoat, steel and salvation, to make sure you visit this site
Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth
http://www.pocm.info/
This miracle of the Holy Quran where it was stated that the subject of 14 centuries before modern science says the Holy Quran
[ Al-Maidah:77 ]
[ Say : O People of the Scripture! Stress not in your religion other than the truth , and follow not the vain desires of folk who erred of old and led many astray , and erred from a plain road . ]
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And now, dear brother, I invite you to Islam, the religion of truth, which is not faithful to distort the religion does not change the religion of the Lord of the Worlds miraculous religion of love, peace and sincerity
And now, dear brother, I invite you to Islam, the religion of truth, which is not faithful to distort the religion does not change the religion of the Lord of the Worlds miraculous religion of love, peace and sincerity
[ An-Nisaa:82 ]-[ Will they not then ponder on the Qur an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity . ]
[ Al-Baqara:208 ]-[ O ye who believe! Come , all of you , into submission ( unto Him ) ; and follow not the footsteps of the devil . Lo! he is an open enemy for you . ]
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/204/
peace be upon you
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جزاكم الله خيرا اخي الكريم
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
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الله يجزيك الجنه ويحقق لك كل ما ترجوه خيرا .. أمين
شكرا جزيلا لك
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم, وبه نستعين
Day and night on earth CAN happen without the sun because it is refering to the TIME. The literal 24 hour periods of the first day and night. In the winter in the arctic the sun does not shine for several months...are you saying that days stop because you cannot have day and night without the sun?
You Know, If You Say That To Scientific Peoples, They Will Lough!!!!
Otherwise Can You Tell Me What Is The Interest Of Creating The Sun???
And Then Please, Can You Tell Me Based On What We Calculate The Time???
As for HIS Light still being here in the world...it is. It shines through the life of every True Christian, but because you are a religous person, you will not see it.
My Friend We Are Not Talking About A Relation Between Us And God, We Are Talking About Scientific Fact, You Can See The Sun Is Shining For Anyone (Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu,.........) This Is The Fact Which We Are Talking About.
And Let Me Ask You Something, You As Christian, You See The God's Light Only In The Day Time, So What About The Night Time????
Otherwise The Christians Shouldn't Have A Night Time, Because Morning Like Evening, God's Light Is Always Shining!!!Or, Is The God's Light Shining Only 12 Hours A Day????
What Will Happen If Someone Wants To Be Christian, How You Will Show Him God's Light?
Note: This Is The First Scientific Error, What About The Rest.
My Friend The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
Have you heard of a figure of speech? The four corners of the earth refer to North West, East and South.
This Is A Huge Mistake Bro., What You've Said Is Not Corners, This Is The DIRECTIONS.
Corners Meaning (The Position At Which Two Lines, Surfaces, Or Edges Meet And Form An Angle)
This Is The Definition Of Corners And It Means That The
Bible's Writer Didn't Know That The Earth Has A Sphere Shape And
Of Course This Is Against The Sience Which Mean That The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
They aren't refering to the actual dimensions of the earth. Let's take Matthew for example: Even Matthew knew that there wasn't an exceedingly high mountain high enough to see all the Kingdoms of the world. It's a figure of speech.
This Based On The Previous Reason As The Bible's Writer Didn't Know
That The Whole Earth Can't Be Seen From One Place Due To It's Spherical Shape Which Mean Again That The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
There are things in the Bible that are written as poetry, some things written as literal truth, others are written as Parables. And you because you are not Saved, nor do you have the Holy Spirit to guide you, cannot understand these things because they are spiritually discerned. Once you repent and Trust in Jesus Christ, the Bible will become alive and truly become the Living Word.
It Doesn't Make A Sence!!!!, The Bible (If It's A Word Of God) Must Be Clear For Everyone
What Will Happen If Anyone Wants To Be Christian, He Can't Understand The Bible
Unless He Become A Christian First!!!!!
So How Come He Will Believe The Bible Before Being Christian????
How You Will Convince Him That The Bible Is The Word Of God????
The Word Of God Must Be Unerstood And Clear For Anyone. At Least The BASICS.
Therefore The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
So you are telling me, all those people in the Middle east
You Can't Compare A Person Behaviour With The Religion Itself.
We Are Talking About Islam As A Religion, Not About People's Behaviours
Otherwise I Will Give You A Plenty Examples From Christians Reflecting What They Have Learned From The Bible, (But It's Not Fair).
. They are reading the same Quran as you are aren't they?
Are You Sure That We Are All Understand The Same Meanings???
These verses are commands to God for a specific people in a specific time.
So Why It's Still There In The Bible, Unless If The God May Repeat It Again So He Want To Say It As A Warning To The Peoples (Like We Should To Learn The Lesson From The Previous Peoples Otherwise We Will Face The Same Reaction From The God)
And Of Course It's Not God's Behaviours To React Such A Reaction (VIOLENCE) And It Means That
The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
Again, because you do not wish to have an honest discussion, you copy and paste verses from other websites
Hey My Friend These Verses Been Quoted From Your Bible Not From My Pocket!!!!
Read the whole chapter of Luke 19. Jesus is speaking in a Parable. A Parable is when you tell a story about something with the intension of drawing out a larger meaning.These things didn't actually happen, but they are stories told do explain a lesson.
And Do You Think That We Shall Learn The God's Lesson From A Fairy Tale!!!!!
My Friend This Things You Can Use With Your Childrens Not With An Adult Peoples.
And Why God Uses Such A Fairy Tale To Teach Us A Lesson??
Isn't He Able To Teach Us The lesson From A Actual Story??
And Can You Explain To Me What Leasson You've Learned From That Fairy Tale???
You Know, The Result From Reading Such Stories Causing One Of Three Possibilities:
One: To Believe A Fake Story, And I Build My FAITH Based On A FAKE Stories
(And It's A Disaster, And Against The Logic)
Two: To Believe It, But I Won't Learn Any Lesson From It Cause I Know It's A FAKE Story
(And Then It Will Be Useless As Same As Children's Story Books.)
Three: To Disbelieve The Story.
(And Then I Can'e Belive Anything Else In The Bible
Cause One Subject In God's Book Doesn't Make A Sence Meaning That
May Be There Is Another Doesn't Make A Sence As Well)
Which Mean That The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
There are MANY parables in the new Testament
Thanks For This Information.
That's Why My Friend The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD. Because The God's Word MUST Be True Not A Fairy Tale.
and if you HONESTLY read the entire chapter
My Friend No Need To Read Such A Stories, Then What is The Difference Between The Bible And Any Children's Story Books!!!!!!
That's Why The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD
My friend, Jesus Christ died for you
Please Can You Prove For Me From The Bible???
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
أمل أن تكونوا جميعا بأتم الصحه والعافيه إخوتي في الله
للتو وصلني رد من صاحب السؤال بعد غياب طويل له
Hello again my friend. I hope you are doing well! I am sorry it took so long to respond, but as a father, I do not have as much time for the computor as I once did. Plus I cannot type as fast as I would like so it makes things take a lot longer. Here are my responses.
You Know, If You Say That To Scientific Peoples, They Will Lough!!!!
I could really care less if "Scientific" people laughed at the Word of God. It wouldn't be the first time!
Otherwise Can You Tell Me What Is The Interest Of Creating The Sun???
The sun has many purposes, which I am sure you know. Incidentally in heaven the sun and moon and stars will pass away at the end of the world, yet there will still be light.
And Then Please, Can You Tell Me Based On What We Calculate The Time??? God created time, we base it on what he decided it would be. We have 24hr days because God said we must have 24hr days.
My Friend We Are Not Talking About A Relation Between Us And God, We Are Talking About Scientific Fact, You Can See The Sun Is Shining For Anyone (Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu,.........) This Is The Fact Which We Are Talking About.
The Bible wasn't written to be a scientific textbook. It is simply an account of HOW and WHEN God created the world and universe. I find if funny that you have a hard time believing that God could create light without the sun, yet you believe that God created the world out of nothing. It's a scientific impossibility, but we learn in the Bible that nothing is impossible with God. it’s a terrible mistake to think just because modern science cannot explain how something is possible, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. God CREATED The laws of science…and I am sure he can break them if he needs too.
What Will Happen If Someone Wants To Be Christian, How You Will Show Him God's Light?
I will show him God’s light the same way it has been done down through the last 2000 years. With the Love of God revealed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I will do what I can to show you the Love of Jesus, and hopefully you will be able to see the love He has for YOU personally. That Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and that NO ONE comes to the Father but through HIM.
The Bible's Writer Didn't Know That The Earth Has A Sphere Shape And
Of Course This Is Against The Science Which Mean That The Bible Is Not The Word Of GOD!
The Bible writers did not know the earth has a spherical shape? What do you do with this verse? Isaiah 40:22 “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in:” Seems to me that Isaiah knew the earth wasn’t a flat square. Another interesting thing about this verse is that later part about stretching out the heavens like a curtain. Scientists today agree that the universe is still EXPANDING. That would almost be like…stretching out like a curtain wouldn’t it? The Bible IS THE WORD OF GOD!
It Doesn't Make A Sence!!!!, The Bible (If It's A Word Of God) Must Be Clear For Everyone
Why would you say that the Bible must be clear to everyone? I mean it makes sense, but who told you it must be clear to everyone? You say that as though God must do things by YOUR rules.
What Will Happen If Anyone Wants To Be Christian, He Can't Understand The Bible Unless He Become A Christian First!!!!!
So How Come He Will Believe The Bible Before Being Christian????
How You Will Convince Him That The Bible Is The Word Of God????
The Word Of God Must Be Understood And Clear For Anyone. At Least The BASICS.
You misunderstood what I was trying to say. The Bible is understandable to the non Christian. If you wanted to understand it, you could, but for most people they would rather not believe the Bible is what it says it is…the Word Of God. When a person is “Born Again” however, God of heaven sends the Holy Spirit to live within your heart. He directs your paths and gives you understanding. Things that didn’t make sense, suddenly do. God gives “Light” to your understanding when you are saved. For example: Before I was saved, I often tried to read the Bible. But I found it to be very boring. After I got saved, and God changed my heart and made me new, I now LOVE reading the Bible. I have a little one in my pocket that I read at breaks at work. I have one in my home that I read early in the morning, and then again at night. I love reading the Bible, but before I was a Christian I didn’t. God changed me through the Holy Spirit! Its amazing!
You Can't Compare A Person Behavior With The Religion Itself.
We Are Talking About Islam As A Religion, Not About People's Behaviors
Otherwise I Will Give You A Plenty Examples From Christians Reflecting What They Have Learned From The Bible, (But It's Not Fair).
You are 100% correct when you say that I cannot use personal behavior with the religion itself. HOWEVER, the point I am trying to make is this; the people who are blowing themselves up in the streets are using verses in the KORAN to defend what they are doing. People who are killing innocent Christians are doing it in the name of Allah. When you ask them how they could do such a thing, they point to verses in the Koran like:
2:190-193 "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you ... And slay them wherever ye catch them ... And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in God ..."
2:216 "Fighting is prescribed for you and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth and ye know not."
These are just two of over 100 verses which speak of violence and fighting for Allah. You are more than welcome to find stories of Christians who have used violence, but I challenge you to find a Christian who can use the teachings of Jesus to justify violence. Try to find someone who points to the New Testament and says “See…it says here I can use violence.” You cannot…because the teachings of Christ are peace, love, joy, longsuffering, patience, goodness, and self control. Not violence
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Are You Sure That We Are All Understand The Same Meanings???
I am very convinced that you are NOT understanding the same meanings in the Koran as those Muslims who use violence. But what makes you believe that you are the one who understands it correctly? They have the Koran Memorized, and every time they commit a terrorist act, or kill, they do it in the name of Allah, quoting the Koran as they go. If they know the Koran so well, how do you know it is not you, who understands it incorrectly?
Hey My Friend These Verses Been Quoted From Your Bible Not From My Pocket!
I know these are verses quoted from the Bible but you are taking them out of context. You are cherry picking different verses, and twisting them from what they actually mean, and then using your distorted understanding to defend your position. You must read the verse in context of WHEN it was written, to WHOM it was written, and WHY it was written. That is the only way you will have a proper understanding.
My Friend This Things You Can Use With Your Childrens Not With An Adult Peoples. Jesus said “…Unless ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of God” God demands that we be humble as a child.
And Why God Uses Such A Fairy Tale To Teach Us A Lesson?
It’s not a fairy tale, it’s a Parable. People down through all history have used parables to explain something. Again, just because you cannot understand it doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
Isn't He Able To Teach Us The lesson From A Actual Story? Yes he could have but he didn’t…he used a Parable. And Can You Explain To Me What Leasson You've Learned From That Fairy Tale?
I learned about how God, gives each Christian a lot of responsibility. (10 lbs) and each Christian by their life shows whether they were doing a good job with the responsibility God had given them. The one man had traded and gotten 10lbs back in return and he was rewarded by God. The other got 5 lbs in return and was rewarded by God. The third man didn’t do anything with what God gave him, but he hid it. God therefore punished him for his lack of obedience. it’s a great parable, and a great way to explain a point you are trying to make.
My Friend No Need To Read Such A Stories, Then What is The Difference Between The Bible And Any Children's Story Books! There is a very big difference between a childrens story and a parable. If you are honest you will admit that as well.
Please Can You Prove For Me From The Bible ?
You would like me to prove that Jesus Christ died for you? It would be my absolute pleasure! The first thing you need to understand is that you are a sinner. I mean I know the Koran speaks of sin, judgment and hell, and the Bible does as well.
I know the Koran speaks of a balance…your good deeds verses your bad deeds. If you have been faithful, kept the 5 Pillars of Islam, and have tried to live as a good Muslim you may POSSIBLY be rewarded. You hope for Paradise but you never know for sure do you? Can you know for sure if you are going to enter Paradise? Has Allah promised you that you will FOR SURE enter into Paradise? Does Allah tell you how much he loves you? How much he cares for you as his child? And How he desires for you to know Him?
The Bible says that even the good works that you do are like a filthy rag. Isaiah 64:6 “ But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” You cannot ever please God, because the good things you do mean nothing to God. They do not please him nor make him happy. Think of your thoughts for a moment…can you go one day without having evil thoughts? Do you ever struggle with anger? Do you ever struggle with thinking sexual thoughts? If you say yes to these things, then you prove that the Bible is true when it says you are sinner. Romans 3:23 says “All have sinned, and come short of the Glory of God.” Every single person, which includes you, has fallen so far from the Glory of God, there was nothing they could ever do to get God’s forgiveness. You may think that you are not that bad and that your sins aren’t as evil as I make them out to be but in fact they are worse than I make them out to be.
God is righteous, perfect, without spot or any blemish of any kind. Perfectly Holy in every way imaginable. Compared to God we are so vile and disgusting we cannot imagine how we must look to Him.
You may say that if we simply ask for forgiveness God will wipe our sins away. But if he wipes our sins away, then how will he Judge us on the day of Judgment? And if God simply allows your sins to be forgiven without any payment whatsoever, then how is that any different than a earthly judge letting a thief go free because he was sorry? That’s not justice…if a crime has been committed there must be a punishment.
If you do not believe you are a sinner in need of forgiveness then you will not appreciate how much God LOVES you. You want to know where I can prove God LOVES You? John 3:16 says “ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” You my friend are part of that world.
The Bible says in Romans 5:8 that “But God commends his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Think of that for a moment. While we were yet sinners…while we did all manners of evil in this world, living for ourselves and sinning against God, he STILL Loved us! What manner of love does God have for you, it is beyond comprehension!
My friend, Jesus Christ, conceived of the Holy Ghost, was born of a virgin, lived a life without sin, and was perfect in thought, word, and deed. He was the PERFECT Sacrifice for your sins. He died on the cross, and took YOUR punishment that God has in store for you, for all your sins. He ROSE from the dead, defeating death and the Devil. He is ALIVE today and is willing to pardon you from all your sins, and give you a new life, and a relationship with the ONE TRUE GOD. If you repent and Trust in Jesus Christ, God can place all of your sins, past, present and future onto the sacrifice of Jesus and you will go free. Simply put, you broke the law, and Jesus paid your fine.
Think about it for a moment. When you repent and become a child of God, you will be able to call God Father. And He LOVES you like a father loves his child. He cares for you, and desires that come to Him. Will you repent and trust Him? The Bible is clear…He Loves you. Will you accept that love, and that gift of salvation? Do you honestly think you will ever be good enough? The Bible says you CAN’T be good enough…that’s why he made a way for you to be forgiven. Through Jesus Christ.
Take Care, my friend, and may the LOVE OF GOD shine light into your heart!
God LOVES You!
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